Some guys struggle with the HVLP (High Volume Low Pressure) sprayer. I think if more guys felt more comfortable about how they work, more guys would use them. For the purpose of this article I will be using the ICI Sanding Sealer only because I happen to be shooting it this week.
On the HVLP gun (top photo) you see two dials, the top one is the air flow or air control knob (how much air goes through the gun) and the other is material flow aka fluid knob (the amount of paint passing through). The arrow on the upper knob (air flow) is set at about the 7 o’clock mark. Max air flow is at 12 o’clock. The knob only works from the 12 o’clock to 6 o’clock mark but you can turn it either way. So if we turn the knob to the right to 5 o’clock, it is the same as turning the knob to the left at 7 o’clock. Hope that makes sense.
The photo below shows how thin the material is. Do you know how -when you pour thick paint in a bucket, the paint sort of accumulates on the surface before it levels out? We can’t have that happen with an HVLP. The paint when poured into itself should dissipate immediately into itself. I have my sanding sealer a bit on the thin side but not by much and only because I was shooting a light dusting coat of tinted sealer.
Once the paint is mixed up and in the cup, turn the fluid knob all the way in and then back it out 2 full turns. Start by shooting with the air flow at the 6 o’clock which should be ‘OFF’. Then while squeezing the trigger, start by turning the air flow to the 9 o’clock mark. It should produce paint at least air through the gun at this point. If not, turn the fluid knob another full turn out. If still nothing, your material may be too thick. You can at this point open the air control knob all the way to 12 o’clock to confirm. If still no material, the gun is blocked up or material is too heavy.
If all goes well, you should be able to shoot materials through the gun with the material flow open slightly and air flow set at 7 or 8 o’clock. 12 o’clock is overkill and does nothing but cloud up the room.
Assuming you have paint through the gun, turn the air off again and very slightly turn air pressure up (a hair) or until paint is distributing a fine spray pattern. If you cut off the air flow the gun should spit paint out. Dial-in where the minimum air is needed to shoot a fine spray from the tip of the gun. The knob is very sensitive, use very small increments for adjustment.
Once you get the hang of that, you can adjust the fluid knob more to move materials quicker. When shooting heavier materials you may want to convert the gun to bleeder style.
See also: HVLP Maintenance and HVLP Transfer Efficiency
10/25/2007
How to dial in HVLP Sprayer
Weight Loss
With all the TV infomercials on weight loss, how is anyone to know for sure if the program will work for them? Come on people, get off the couch, those are all scams… are they not? My proven weight loss system will eliminate the question and produce nothing but results.
Enter Jack’s workout program.
3 simple steps to fitness and weight loss guaranteed! Actually I only guarantee that when I follow the 3 steps, I lose weight.
Step 1 Buy paint (start off with 15 gallons)
Step 2 Buy roller
Step 3 Spread 15 gallons of paint in less than 2 hours and watch the pounds fall off. Do this each day for 1 week, you'll see.
This post is for entertainment purposes only although physical workouts have proven to help losing weight. Consult with a doctor before using any weight loss program and preferrably not an actor dressed up as a doctor.
Ext. SuperPaint Woes
Here are a few tips for dealing with difficult colors using Sherwin Williams Exterior SuperPaint.
For the purpose of this article I am referring to a ‘difficult color’ as any color that will not cover easily in two coats such as reds, deep greens, midnight blues, pastels etc.
General Tips: For best results with most any paint product when it comes time to paint an exterior front door, try to paint 1) early morning, 2) not in direct sunlight and 3) not in windy conditions. Keep all windows and other doors closed while you paint. This will decrease the amount of draft passing by the door. Sun and wind are the enemies. I will postpone however long I have to for optimum conditions to paint a front door. This is important, brace the door in a way that it will not move while you are painting it.
Painting front doors:
In the new home market we are required to paint front doors to match factory vinyl shutters manufactured by Norandex. You may experience a similar requirement with another manufacturer.
Some of our builders use metal factory primed steel doors and others use white shiny fiberglass entry doors. Typically most of these shutter paint colors cover fine in two coats over the dark grey factory primer except for 3 of them, Bordeux, Midnight Green and Midnight Blue (shown). Not all factory steel doors are primed the same shade of grey, some are very dark and others are pale grey.
If you were to brush Sherwin Williams Exterior Super Paint mixed in any one of the three colors shown you are likely to apply 4 or 5 coats to achieve full color depth over a pale grey or white fiberglass door. To work around this labor intensive process you can reprime the door with a dark grey flat primer (flatter the better) and apply two coats of finish. Or do like I do and mask the door off and spray it. More info here on spraying Trim and Doors.
If you decide to brush the door, another option is to get two quarts mixed up, have one quart mixed in Sherwin Williams Exterior Super Paint Flat and one in Satin or Semi-gloss. I do not recommend Exterior SuperPaint mixed in Gloss for doors. You have more working time with Satin than you do with Semi-Gloss. If the final result is semi-gloss then use satin for your first coat and semi-gloss for your 2nd and 3rd. If your final result is satin, then use flat for first coat and satin for the 2nd and maybe 3rd if needed.
Here is a TIP for applying Exterior Super Paint. Paint the edges first. If your door had defined panels such as a 6 panel style door, paint the inside of all panels completely first and use a damp rag to wipe wet paint away from any area but the panel. Take a look at the photo here for a numbered procedural method for painting a door. Then finish off the door using that method.
A TIP for painting the hinge edge is the same, paint the edge and as you move down the edge of the door, remove any paint with a wet rag that got on the face of the door.
10/24/2007
How to Rolling walls Techniques
As far as I’m concerned, there is only one way to roll. This technique is certainly not anything new but it is simple and very effective for achieving consistent finishes but there is one exception to this technique. If you are rolling a 16’ high wall, I strongly suggest you roll this pattern on the lower 8’ and then do the same pattern on the upper 8’ with your last stoke from ceiling to floor. Be sure to put plenty of stuff in your way too as seen in the photos.
The photos are pretty much straight forward. Start in the middle of the wall; roll down then up passed the middle to the ceiling and finally finish the last pass from ceiling to floor. |
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See also: Rolling Duration Home for more info. Head on over to YouTube.com and search 'rolling walls' for video demonstrations. |
ICI Sanding Sealer
Brushing:
This product is pretty straight forward although you have little time to work with it. It is best to keep moving ahead and try not to back brush previously wet areas.
Rolling:
It is not recommended to roll sanding sealer and leave it as is. I recommend always laying off with a brush. Work in small areas and use a Mohair short nap cover.
Spraying: When using an HVLP you may find it beneficial to slightly reduce the sealer. A formula of 24 oz. sanding sealer to 8 oz. thinner is sufficient to allow fast steady flow from the gun. Reducing should allow you to dial in your gun with minimal air flow. My air flow is almost all the way to off. I use a #3 projector set for sealer.
Dealing with drips and sags:
Yep, even I get them from time to time and I highly recommend keeping an eye on your work as you go. Every so often take a look back at your work. If you can, try to remove sags with a dry oil brush by feathering the sag out. If the sag had too much time to dry but is still soft, grab your 5-in-1 and shave it off carefully. If the sag or drip has dried completely, use a single edge razor blade and shave it off very carefully, sand smooth and repair.
About the photo: The photo shows ICI sanding sealer over stained poplar.
Also look at Do it Best Sanding Sealer
Cutting 8' vs. 16'
Painting high ceiling lines.
Have you ever figured out the time difference for cutting a 16’ high wall vs. an 8’ wall? - I have, here are the shocking results! I can comfortably cut 8’ and 9’ ceilings at the rate of 11-14 fpm. with the help from this.
Now once I hop on a 24’ extension ladder my foot rate per minute drops drastically to 3 lousy fpm. THREE FEET! So, the next time you estimate a job with a high wall, you will now know how much more to charge.
Be faster painting ceiling lines. Learn how.
Here is a video on cutting in ceiling lines using a 2 step approach.
How to be faster cutting-in ceilings
Werner TW372-30 Step Ladder
When painting there is no other more time consuming task for me besides cutting in ceiling lines, and we do it twice. This small investment will shave countless hours off your day-to-day grind and you’ll do it with a smile and like it.
The wide step ladder when placed in the corner of a room allows me to reach 7' each way. I comfortably cut-in 8' or 9' ceilings at the rate of 11-14 fpm, that’s damn quick! and a lot less up and down a ladder. When I hop up on this step ladder, I cut-in 7' one direction and 7' the other, about 14' in one minute. On a small room, I move this step ladder 4 times, about 4 minutes or so to cut a small room.
Be sure to check out Werner ladder for other sizes. I keep a 2’ and 3’ step in the truck. The 2’ works great on 8’ – 9’ ceilings.
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10/23/2007
Corrective Finishes
Wood Finishing Using Toner
You may come across a homeowner who might ask you to magically blend all their wood to look exactly the same. Well, magic is exactly what you will need for that. But, if you manage to compromise with the homeowner after the 60 minute lecture on wood, you might come to the following conclusion.
Let’s make the center plywood look more like the real solid wood around it. We are going to do this by applying several, (as many as necessary) toner coats over the plywood. You will notice the fireplace is otherwise finished except for the center 3 pieces.
We will be masking off everything but the plywood and using the HVLP, we are going to mix the stain directly into the clear finish and apply dusting coats of toner until the homeowner is happy.
This TIP is also useful for adjusting blotchy stained pieces or areas such as you see in the photo. Also a toner coat adds depth to the wood.
If you have a deep red mahogany color on poplar, you can adjust color depth utilizing toner coats. Also effective on poplar when you want more solid uniform color cast like you see on furniture and kitchen cabinets. Toner coats work great for kitchen cabinet refinishing too!
Wooster Polar Bear
Wooster Polar Bear #R236
I hear mixed reactions to Wooster’s Polar Bear covers. The white plush fabric has decent paint pick up and release. This cover may be best used on non-smooth walls but the Polar Bear leaves a unique finish on smooth drywall especially when spreading eggshell paints. There is a disadvantage to this cover and that is, touching up a smooth wall that was rolled with the Polar Bear may not blend well. It is difficult to replicate the initial finish.
There is a bit of a learning curve to using the Polar Bear. It is best to apply paint as you would and work an area wet. When your cover runs dry, slightly roll the cover down the wall with little pressure to fluff the cover up. Once the cover is fluffed up, go back to the starting point and run the cover very lightly and swiftly down the wall to finish it off. If the cover goes limp or flat, you’re not doing it right. It’s likely you may be pressing too hard or ran the cover too dry.
Added time to the job may be required to work the finish to a nice faint stipple.
Poor mans cover keeper
Simple, cheap and effective! Wrapping your roller cover in a trash bag for overnight or 30 days later will save you time and headache. I use plastic when I exceed the number of PVC keepers I have. Plastic bags keep the cover wet for at least 30 days, just keep them out of direct sunlight.
I use a low tack masking tape for easy removal. If you know you are going to be in and out of a color, after you reopen the plastic bag, fold the bag in half (wet on wet) and reuse it when you're done.
See also: Roller Cover Care
When touchups go bad
Many complaints about paint touchups not matching are not necessarily paint related, imagine that. There are three main factors to consider when touchups go bad or paint does not match.
1. Was the touchup made in the same manner in which it was initially painted? Meaning, did you touch up with a brush over an area that was previously rolled? It is also just as important to use the same roller cover to touch up from the initial roll.
2. Is the touched up area shinier than the area around the touchup? If so, the main area is not at full sheen. Read this on how to achieve full sheen.
3. Does the touch up appear to be a different color? If so, it is likely the paint was not stirred adequately. It is especially important to stir dark colors frequently and stir the bottom of the can. Also important is proper boxing of the paint across multiple gallons.
The most common scenario: Don't expect much as far as touchups go using one coat of wall primer and one coat of finish, you're simply not done painting yet.
Other possible paint touch up failures can be attributed to temperature and the time taken to spread the paint. Do not expect nice touch ups if your paint sits out to (evaporate) for too long. Paint sitting in an open cutting can or bucket dries out quickly.
There are some paints out that suggest adding a certain amount of water to the paint for touch ups. Check the label for specific instructions. I found that some paints perform better and touch up nicer when initially thinned slightly with clean water, typically any thick paints. This thinning is especially useful for rolling 16' walls. Do not thin if you need thickness for coverage.
See also: Rolling Eggshell Paints for TIPS on rolling techniques.
Color Shown: Shewin Williams Totally Tan mixed in ICI Dulux Velvet Sheen
10/22/2007
HVLP Transfer Efficiency
There is no argument that an HVLP [High Volume Low Pressure] Sprayer pulls its own weight. I recall the first day, first job I used my first HVLP unit. I had a stained trim house all prepared on the drying racks and all I had to do was shoot some sanding sealer on the trim. I suppose two guys brushing the trim for an hour and a half isn’t bad but the HVLP did the whole trim package in under 30 mins., nice. Needless to say, the HVLP paid for itself time and time again.
Besides its time saving abilities, the HVLP when dialed in properly will save on materials too. Take notice in the photo of the spindles above, that is the extent of the overspray. I shot 2 coats of Zinsser Odorless Oil primer on those bare poplar spindles before carpet and shot the oil finish after carpet. The photo shows the accuracy and transfer efficiency is incredible.
See also: Cleaning your HVLP
Factory exterior primer fails brickmold
Here is a very popular issue with new construction homes. The factory primer on brick molding and door jambs comes off regularly. There is no failsafe work around for this issue aside from stripping the lousy factory primer off.
Here are a few tips to help this troublesome problem along. Let’s face it; until enough builders complain about this issue, it won’t change. You can run a palm sander or orbital sander vigorously on all areas possible. These jambs are finger jointed and it is important to smooth up those joints and seal them better. Take some 150 grit sandpaper and knock off any sharp edges everywhere else. The paint will fail if you were to paint over these sharp edges.
Now, mix up some Zinsser Cover Stain at this formula. 32 oz. of Cover Stain to 12 oz. of NAPTHA and apply to the entire jamb. This diluted mixture will do three things 1) penetrate the finger-joints 2) soften factory primer and 3) penetrate factory primer to give some added bite. When dry, apply two heavy coats of your favorite acrylic finish.
See also: Sandpaper Time Savers
Full Sheen Ahead
Regardless of your preference, this topic covers how to achieve a full sheen that holds gloss levels true to its formulation. There is no known paint to me that holds gloss regardless of 1 coat, 2 coats or 3 coats. Typically you’ll experience this, the second coat is shinier than the first coat and the 3rd coat is shinier than the second coat. So when does the sheen stop getting shinier and become true to its formulation?
The answer depends on what is under the finish paint. For example, if we paint a PVC casing with semi-gloss, the dried finish is going to be shiner than if you painted a piece of primed wood. The PVC will not absorb sheen but the primer coat will. Not all primers absorb sheen the same. Some primers if not sanded will not absorb any sheen and the same primer sanded will. I’ve been known to do one coat of an oil primer on bare wood and one coat of an acrylic primer prior to two coats of finish. Again, not all primers and finishes are equal. Generally primers dry flat, I know of one primer that dries like an eggshell and that is ICI Gripper. Because Grippers sheen is eggshell, you are already one step ahead over a flat primer to achieve a full sheen.
Regardless of which primer you choose, the absolute best finish will come from one coat of primer sanded smooth and a second coat of primer not sanded, and then apply 2 coats of semi-gloss. I know, four coats of paint is not realistic and many homeowners do not want to pay for it, but it looks great!
See also: Iridescent White Trim as seen in above photo along with SW Totally Tan.
Duration Home
What is this, a circus act?
Outrageous claims are common place in the paint industry. Lifetime Guarantee, Excellent Brushability, One Coat Coverage, Blocks Tannin Bleed… ring a bell? The products shout “step right up” you fools we’ve got the next best thing! Some manufacturers put anything on a label to get you to buy their product but do the products deliver?
Let’s take a closer look at Duration Home from Sherwin Williams.
This review is older and products do change from time-to-time. Most of us have seen the large Duration Home display in the store or perhaps heard about Duration Home on the radio or saw it on TV.
In the store you’ll find a sample board with the left side coated with Duration Home and the right side with an unknown flat wall paint. One important factor to point out is the sample board is a piece of Masonite which is hard on the surface and when primed properly, very non absorbent. The second thing to point out is the water based markers they allow you to draw with and wipe off the samples. The third item to point out is the type of sponge sitting on the display they want you to use to wipe the marker off with a light spray of water, also provided in the display. The sponge is a Mr. Clean Magic Eraser. The forth and most important is the color of the sample board, it’s none other than white the same color as the sponge nonetheless.
Well while many people are fooled by this little gimmick, we were not. It did however remind of us the vacuum cleaner commercial where they suck up a bowling ball using a toilet plunger mounted to the end of the vac hose. Duration Home is a lot like that commercial. We can’t argue at all that Duration Home is a nice product.
We are assuming you tried wiping the marker off the display board and maybe you were impressed but did you know, you can take that same marker applied to almost any flat white paint (except) the flat wall paint they put on that sample board, and wipe the mark clean.
We suspect they used white as the sample board color (as did Behr) and a white sponge because they don’t want you to see the paint it’s removing. Try this little test next time you spread a color in Duration other than white, take a marker and make a mark on the paint then take a damp Magic Eraser sponge and wipe it off, now take a look at your sponge, same color as the wall we suspect. Be sure you give the paint time to cure, we gave ours 60 days.
We went crazy with a black permanent Sharpie making marks on the walls all through our house. We are painters, I don’t think any two rooms have the same product on them. We were able to remove all our marks with the Magic Eraser and surprisingly we found the builder grade eggshell paint we used on our kitchen walls wiped off the easiest. Sure its eggshell paint and should clean nicer then a flat paint but that was cheap $11 paint and one of the lowest sheen levels we’ve seen in an eggshell even less of a sheen than Duration Home Satin. Get my point here?
Now don’t get me wrong we like Duration Home but we like it because it applies nice, saves us time and resists burnishing on the matte finish. No flat wall paint we know of resists smearing your finger across it but Duration Home. ICI's Dulux Velvet Sheen is almost the same sheen as Duration Home Matte and will not burnish either for half the price. If you ever had a chance to spread ceramics, you will find Duration Home applies much the same. Duration Home is a styrene acrylic and does have a nice feel to it when dry. Just be cautious how you sell Duration Home to your customers. The miracle here is the sponge. Some guys sell this stuff off like it’s the best thing since sliced bread, we just think its pretty decent and we are excited to spread it any chance we get.
Now if Sherwin Williams would work on quality control they will have a nice product to boast about. We spread 25 gallons the other day in matte finish and our paint was very inconsistent. We had 2 colors some mixed in 5’s the rest singles. Some of our singles were full to the rim, others were below the pour spout. One color when boxed was thick to spread, the other was thin and smooth like a ceramic. Needless to say, the full singles did not mix well on the shaker so we had tint issues too. It’s a great product if they could only get their QC together but is it worth the price? No!
See also: Rolling Duration Home
10/21/2007
Duration Exterior
This is a review on Sherwin Williams Duration Exterior Paint from 9/03
Sherwin Williams Duration™ Review performed by an independent painting contractor.
Exterior Latex Satin Coating K333 Series
Retail Price: $40.00
Usage: Exterior
Front Label:
On the front of this product you will find a nice shiny silver label which is rather impressive. My initial thoughts gazing at the shiny label in the store were somewhere along the lines of, ‘No wonder why this product costs so much’, look at that label. The only thing it lacks is a nice black velvet jewelry-like case for packaging. I would think for $40 we would get some sort of nice carrying case. Personally, for a premium, I would expect this product to be Sherwin Williams’s top-of-the-line product and it should have been labeled in gold. Doesn’t silver represent something less than gold? The more I think about it, I wonder what product SW has that might supercede Duration for exterior expectations and I can’t think of one.
Back Label:
On the back of the label you’ll find some helpful tips on how to apply this product, what to apply it with, what to apply it to and when it’s most appropriate to apply along with preventing damage to surfaces not intended for this product in the event you should spill or spatter it on something you don’t want paint on, including your person. The label boasts this product has a “tenacious” grip almost like a bright red and white sign jumping out at you saying “BEWARE”!!!
Features:
· One Coat Protection
· Self-Priming
· Easy Application
· Superior Hiding
· Thicker. More Flexible
· Resists Blistering and Peeling
· Low Temperature 35º Application
It’s most intriguing feature is in the name Duration, kindly implying that this product will be on my home for the duration of its existence. Well, maybe not that long but it implies something along those lines but does not say what its life expectancy is. Five years? Ten years?... we don’t know, it just sounds promising. There is something to be said about calling a product ‘Duration’ but not specifically saying what duration you might expect.
Under the Lid:
I was anxious to get this product back to the shop. I had a lot of uses in mind. I grabbed my handy 5-in-1 tool and my nylon/polyester brush from my keeper and my viscosity cup from the work bench and proceeded around the lid. I gently raised the lid with two fingers peaking into the can as if it contained some sort of treasure, remember… I just paid a premium for this product. I quickly wiped the lid clean of dripping paint and dunked my viscosity cup in for a swim and pulled it out… one thousand one, one thousand two, one thousand three, one thousand f… drip. I quickly realized that this product is way too heavily bodied for my vcup so I dumped the paint back into the can and swapped it for a nice birch stir stick from my vintage wood collection and began stirring. It’s just like the features say, “Thicker. More Flexible”. Yes it’s thick but thicker than what and more flexible than what?
The product was surprisingly thick but not quite like mayonnaise then I quickly wondered how it would spread as many heavily bodied paints do not spread well but Sherwin Williams boasts “Easy Application” so for now my mind is at ease. The limiting factor becomes the ability to spread the product evenly across the substrate and when you factor in the element of wind for example, heavy bodied paints become increasingly difficult to spread - add in low weather temperatures and you have a very difficult product to spread.
The Line Up:
For this test I will be using the following materials, cedar, redwood, pine, pre-primed man-made composites, pre-primed finger jointed southern pine, fypon decorative molding, PVC trim components and factory primed steel doors.
The Test:
This review will cover most aspects of the product except for the time in which it will last due to obvious reasons. We will be using the Satin version of Duration in plain White – stock off the shelf with no additives or preservatives.
In the shop Duration applied well straight out of the can to the above mentioned material however when we took the product outside to paint in 70-75º temperatures with a humidity level of 65% and a slight wind at 5MPH, we had strikingly varied results.
One Coat Protection/Coverage:
In this portion of the review I will sum up both Protection and Coverage.
Cedar/Redwood:
Although the Data Sheet specifies that when applied to bare cedar, knots or redwood – the first coat may show some staining but assures the product will lock in the stains. We found redwood to show very little staining after first coat however the cedar boards tannin bleed through was very apparent and questionable whether or not a second coat will provide adequate coverage as our white coat turned a dirty brownish white color.
Cedar/Redwood 2nd Coat:
Some portions of our cedar samples did not cover the tannin fully with a second coat. My suggestions would be to disregard the self-priming aspect of Duration on Cedar and use an oil based primer specifically designed for blocking tannin. Even if you could get Duration to cover in two coats on cedar – chances are great that tannin will bleed through during the first week after the final coat was applied. I am failing Duration on this portion of the review to provide a nice seal to lock in tannin. There are very few oil based primers on the market that will lock in tannin. I think Sherwin Williams squeezed in the stain blocker portion into the specs where in my opinion should have been left out.
Reality Check:
Let’s say you have a project that requires 1 gallon of paint on cedar. Let’s say you purchased Duration because it says it can be used on cedar and you take your chances on a $40 gallon of paint only to realize you will need a second coat and even a third to really cover tannin, $120 plus labor 3 times - absolutely not worth it. I am thinking more along the lines of a $16 gallon of oil based stain blocker and a $20 gallon of finish. $84 savings plus a days work saved.
Pine:
When applied to bare pine trim we were impressed at the ability to cover bare wood as the data sheet specifies Duration is self-priming. At this stage I would say so but looks are very deceiving when it comes to paints. Just because a product can cover bare wood in one coat nicely does not mean it will hold up well in the elements. Besides, pine is not a recommended material for exterior.
Pre-Primed Composites:
I could not get Duration to cover an off-white factory primer in one coat on our test materials. I expected better coverage over a pre-primed surface. In fact, the coverage on bare pine was better vs. over a primer coat. Regardless, two top coats should finalize the project without a problem.
Fypon/PVC:
Both our PVC and Fypon materials come from the factory in a fairly clean white color. Duration covered both PVC and Fypon nicely in one coat. I experienced a lot of drag when painting fypon materials (cast foam) but painting PVC went without a hitch.
Steel Doors:
Our test doors are ThermaTru six panel factory primed steel. We could not successfully paint a steel door with this product. Duration sets up much to fast to get through one side of a door. We immediately washed the mess off the door and fail this product for brush use on a steel door. Suggestions would be to spray Duration per Data Sheet specs but we will not be performing any spray work in this review.
Easy Application:
I found Duration to be one of the most difficult products to spread in all of my 20 years of painting. I understand the data sheet recommends not painting in direct sun but let’s face it, is that really reasonable to ask a consumer or painter? Easy application to me means this product will spread easy, flow nicely, have sufficient glide and will not have restrictions on when or where I can paint. I have to fail this portion of the review because it was not easy to apply, at all in indirect sunlight.
Superior Hiding:
The hiding aspects of Duration are only achieved with a heavy mil thickness. The Data Sheet states this product can be applied wet at 7 mil. I could not get Duration to cover an off-white primer nicely with 2-3 mil. Our average tested mil thickness was between 2-3 mil/w evenly. While we were able to achieve 7 mil on our vertical sample boards, we could not spread anywhere near 7 mil evenly. I am however confident Duration can with a bit of finesse cover a fairly dark color in two coats but I would not call that superior hiding as most paints on the market cover in two coats. I won’t fail Duration in this portion of the review but rather caution the consumer that your expectations may be too high for what Duration will hide.
Over Spray Paint:
We also tested Duration using readily available black and red Krylon spray paint applied as graffiti on both vinyl and wood siding. Two coats covered with an initial light sanding.
Sheen Level:
Our first coat on all our sample boards looked like a satin finish however the second coat I would call semi-gloss.
Low Temperature 35º Application
Does anyone really have the ambition to go outside on a nice sunny cold day with snow on the ground and crack open a can of Duration and paint their porch rail? May I suggest a movie instead? First off, I don’t care what low temperatures Duration can be applied because no matter what – the materials outside in the cold that you intend on painting are by no means in any condition to be painted. While a 35º temp paint sounds impressive, as a professional paint contractor – take it from me… do not paint in the cold. We took a gallon of Duration and placed it in the freezer bringing it to 35º temperature relative to what you might experience painting with this product outside in 35º weather. If you absolutely must apply this product in the cold – plan on using a putty knife instead of a brush.
Application Methods:
Brush:
We used several different nylon/poly brushes during our review from Wooster and Purdy and found only one to work well with Duration.
Wooster ULTRA/PRO® EXTRA-FIRM LINDBECK® #4153
When taking a dip out of the can, the paint does not release from the brush – instead it hangs from the brush. I am an extremely neat painter but I managed to get paint all over the floor from where the can set to the sample boards. Release is a very important factor to me when painting outside in the wind. If the paint does not release from the brush when you pull it out of the can - the wind will blow any hanging material all over things you don’t intend on painting. Another important factor to consider with the release of this product is the fact that Duration does not release from the brush onto the surface you are painting. The best way to describe it would be how snow moves from the two edges of a snow plow – pushing through the product creating ridges along side of the brush. I found painting exterior door casings very annoying because I would get the edge looking nice then face off the front of the casing then mess up the edge, over and over and because Duration dries so fast - I ended up making a complete mess.
Roller:
We took the labels recommendations and used a 3/8” nap synthetic roller cover. I will never try that again.
Suggestions:
As I mentioned earlier, Duration is heavily bodied. Sherwin Williams might consider suggesting on the label to use a (extra firm) nylon/polyester brush because without one you will be fighting with this product.
Recommendations:
I found many uses for this product (inside) a home rather than outside however this product clearly states on the label, ‘For Exterior Use Only’.
Conclusions:
There is a bit of a trick to using Duration properly and that is to always work as fast as you possibly can in one direction and do not look back. The painted surface looks good from a distance, but looking at it up close; you can see that you really have a mess due to the quick set-up and no leveling. Duration as specified on the data sheet dries quickly and because it dries fast – there is no time for the paint to level. You will have brush marks in your finish that are unavoidable with this product. You can instantly take a brand new piece of wood and make it look like it was painted 50 times. While this product may exceed in the elements but was not tested over a period of time, I feel there are many other products available that provide professional long lasting finishes and are easy to use.
Here is another review/experience with Duration.
About MDF Trim
Another scenario, let’s say your basement floods and your baseboard and trim gets wet, your MDF trim is ruined. It’s as simple as that.
So, if you know your MDF will come in contact with water (melting snow from boots) or (spill something in the kitchen), your MDF MUST have an oil based primer applied to ALL edges, front, back, top, bottom, the saw cuts, everything or you leave yourself open for damage to your investment. It’s as simple as that.
If your trim or molding is already installed, well then you learned a valuable lesson just now, if it’s not installed, take the time to dry cut your pieces and prime the pieces entirely with an oil-based primer. Do this for any area you feel might come in contact with water even 1 table spoon of water will destroy MDF. DO NOT think for a second putting oil-based primer on the face of your MDF will prevent any damage from water, it won’t.
The theory of MDF is to save the consumer or builders money but in fact, finishing MDF costs more than if you simply bought pine trim which is a hell of a lot more durable than MDF. Pine trim while still not the preferred trim of choice at least won’t chip apart when you whack it accidentally with the sweeper or pull the cord hard for that matter. Dogs love MDF too!
About the photo: Water damage on MDF from the carpet cleaner who dripped a little water on the floor. Sure he wiped up the spill but the water was underneath the baseboard and this is in an area where no water was expected.
See also: Painting MDF and issues with filling nail holes on MDF
10/20/2007
Nail Putty Problems
The work around: 4 Options
1) Re-prime that crappy factory primer before you do any nail hole filling.
2) Use a latex putty vs. oil.
3) Use a product such as DAP CrackShot or DryDex (much more time consuming) best results.
4) Use Whiting Powder to dry out the putty a bit.
In new home construction it is far less expensive and labor intensive to simply spray a new coat of primer on the trim. The factory primer is applied to the wood with one goal in mind, to fill imperfections in the wood.
10/16/2007
Caulk. The act of caulking
Undoubtedly caulk is a one of the painter’s best mediums. The saying goes, caulk and paint will fix what a trim carpenter aint. Trim carpenters who do nice work can save a painter countless hours of preparation. I am very fortunate to work behind an excellent trim carpenter on our jobs, in the past I worked behind some of the worst; in the trade we call them hacks.
For example: we might use 4 or 5 tubes of caulk on an entire house with our current carpenter. A house of the same size with a careless trim carpenter may require over a case of caulk and all of our caulk is hand-laid.
10/11/2007
Behr Premium Flat
This is a video of a Home Depot Employee demonstrating how well Behr Flat paint can be scrubbed. Here is what they don't tell you.
There is no mention as to how the newspaper was treated prior to painting. We don't know if this is glossy stock newspaper print ads or just plain thin newspaper. It looks like glossy color print ads which are thicker in weight. The white paint will not show how badly scrubbing affected the paint finish. Sherwin Williams did that little trick with Duration Home. We dont know what primer was used or how many coats of primer the newspaper has (that is the most important thing on this particular test). We dont know how many coats of Behr Premium Flat is on there either or what he used to write with.
If this was done on a dark green or red paint, I would be impresssed. Besides, Behr Premium Flat isnt flat anyways neither is Duration Home Matte.
Wooster ProClassic Plus
This brush is no longer available at our Lowes.
Well it's getting colder here in Ohio and for me that means painting in less than optimum conditions, which means changing up the brushes. Painting in new houses during the winter months often is not as warm as we like especially painting window sashes. I turn to the Wooster Brush Company for some help. The Wooster Pro Classic Plus 2 ½” Extra Firm brush will assist in moving heavier (thicker/colder) paints. This brush is found at Lowes Home stores along with other sizes.
Other advantages for using this brush are spreading oil-based paints and primers which are typically thicker products or painting outside in temperatures near 40 degrees. This brush can produce a very sharp cut.
See also: Brushes Closeup
Putty & Fillers
DAP CRACKSHOT mixed with blue food coloring provides easy-to-see patches when it comes time to sand. This allows smooth feathering of edges while at the same time helps prevent missing areas that need sanded. This TIP may or may not require a primer to lock in the food coloring. Test a sample area first.
With countless methods and products available to prepare new trim for paint who’s to know which method produces the best finishes. We take a close look into various products for filling nail holes and repairing imperfections on the surface of trim to achieve a nice smooth finish. Painters all have their preference when in comes to filling nail holes on new trim. A few popular methods for filling nail holes are, nail putty, window glazing, wood filler, drywall mud, shrink-free spackling, sawdust and glue, whiting powder and oil based paint, even caulk to name a few.
The method of attack is solely based on the type of finish you desire. For every method mentioned previously, there are countless products available. For example nail putty in our area is sold by MinWax, DAP, Sherwin Williams, Color Putty brand, Crawfords to name a few but all perform differently. Nail putty is sold in oil-based and water-based formulas. It’s important to know which to use under various finish paint products. For example, you might think using a oil-based putty for oil-based paints is best, not true.
In fact, it’s the opposite. When an oil-based putty is used under oil-based paints, the nail putty leaves a shiny wet spot in the surface of the paint and takes months to dry out.
Paint contractors can not afford to wait the recommended drying period of up to 21 days for oil-based nail putty to cure prior to painting so we turn to other methods that allow us to produce quick turn around on finishes without much delay. There are many work-around methods to use oil-based putty under oil finishes. Some include using whiting powder or drywall dust to dry-out the oils in the putty with the idea of making the putty as dry as possible and still workable to fill holes with. While this method can work the putty still needs to skin over and overnight is best before applying the finish paint. Another method used in the field is filling with an oil-based putty and priming with an acrylic primer prior to applying an oil finish.
See also: Stainable Wood Fillers
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Labels: How-to, sundries, various tips, wood finishing
Racking Trim
One of the areas we can save a substantial amount of time is preparing trim prior to installation. Although today we do very few stained houses, in the past every house we did for years had stained trim. Applying stain and a coat of sanding sealer to the trim before installation saved days of work. We are typically able to stain and seal a trim package for a house approximately 2300 sqft. before noon.
Using saw horses and a wool applicator pad, I apply the stain and another person racks it. CAUTION: use this racking system by loading from the TOP and working down. Then unload the rack from the bottom up. See also: Racking 5 1/2" base boards.
Basic Specs:
We used 2x4's 8' in length and cut them to 93" to allow for using these racks in a room with 8' ceilings placed on an angle leaning on the wall. (see photo). Use 3" nails and starting at one end measure your first nail to be 1 1/2" from the edge and space all nails 1 1/2" apart. This spacing allows for your first trim piece to be placed face down on the nails and your second trim piece in the same nail slot face up. This allows you to maximize the racks holding capacity. One rack 93" accommodates 120 pieces of trim, 2 on each nail.
Painting & Racking 5 ½" Baseboard
Here is a simple yet effective way of racking baseboard of various sizes. Ceramic tile and hardwood flooring is very common in the houses we paint and lots of it. A huge time saver is to get one coat of paint on the baseboard prior to the carpenter installing it.
We set the baseboard on saw horses and shoot them with an airless sprayer then rack them to dry.
The racking system is also used to paint standard 3 ½” base boards. In this scenario, we stand the rack up against the wall. A WORD OF CAUTION when standing this rack against the wall, be sure to load your boards from the top down otherwise loading from the bottom up may cause the rack to fall over into the room. When you are ready to remove the boards, remove them from the bottom up.
See also: Racking Trim
Painting Cedar Shakes
This week a reader wrote in with questions on how long he should wait after power (pressure) washing his house of cedar shake siding.
I know so many paint contractors who will go wash a wood house on Monday and shoot paint on the house Tuesday.
If you think for a second that the house had enough time to dry, you are sadly mistaken and just asking for troubles. Take a look at the photo on the left. In just a short time the cedar soaked up enough water to where its wet two inches up the board. The most common place on cedar shakes that paint or solid stains fail is the bottom edge of the lap. This wicking effect is absorbing water and drawing the water up the board and even under any paint left on the laps. Moisture under a paint film needs more than over night to dry. The top photo shows the cedar cut with a saw to show how much and how far into the cedar that water goes.
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Labels: exterior paint, mail bag, various tips
10/10/2007
Cover Keeper
Time is money, unfortunately in this business there is no way around that. This little tip is just one of many things that reduce operating costs but also reduce time, the wasted kind.
Cleaning an 18” roller cover takes time. It’s not financially feasible to pay someone to clean roller covers, so the option is to clean them yourself or toss them. I minimize the number of times I clean them.
In new construction, we first coat on a scheduled day and then we typically will not be back to that house for about a month sometimes less. It’s a waste of my time to clean roller covers when I know they will be needed later for second coat and even touchups after that.
This cover keeper made from PVC will keep roller covers wet until I need them for second coat. I simply put a piece of masking tape on the tube and mark the color and job name. The roller covers will stay in the tubes until the job is closed out and the homeowner’s house closes with the builder.
I used two 18” covers a total of seven times on the house I completed today but started 2 months ago. Think of all the time saved. I would have had to clean those covers 14 times.
See also: Roller Cover Care and Select Roller Covers
10/09/2007
Clean-n-Dip Review
Just a short product review on Back to Nature's Clean-n-Dip. I primarily use Clean-n-Dip for cleaning sprayer parts. It has no odor, contains no methylene-cloride, caustic or other harsh chemicals, easily cleans up with water and will not burn the skin.
The product starts to work immediately but works best if you place the parts in a can and let the sprayer parts soak about 15 minutes or so. I use a stiff toothbrush to periodically loosen heavy paint buildup. Clean-n-Dip can be reused.
The product removed oils, sanding sealer and acrylics fairly easy. I had a few stubborn areas that required M.E.K. to soften the fully cured varnish. I recommend this product. Be sure to shake and mix well and stir occasionally while you use it. You can use a paint strainer to removed the crud and pour the cleaner back into a container or coffee can.
10/08/2007
Modify your Pole Sander
This great pole sander modification will increase contact with the wall and allow you to sand lighter and using less energy. Until you pole sand deep intense paint colors - chances are you probably never knew how poor pole sanders perform.
I use three different brand pole sanders and they all perform poorly. The sandpaper does not make full contact with the wall even though each of them have a pad on the bottom. Instead, the outer edges only make contact with the wall. If you apply more pressure towards the wall, you get a heavily sanded spot in the center as seen below on the left side.
Use a piece of foam 1/4" thick (JoAnn Fabrics) cut precisely the same size as the pad on the sander then mount the sandpaper. You will be amazed how well this works and how much easier and less effort it is to sand out a house. Very little pressure is required. Here is another pole sander option from the guys at Full Circle International.
Click to view larger image. Notice the full width of contact with the modified pole sander. I made one single light pass with and without the modification.
HVLP Sprayer Maintenance
Freehand 2 Wall Colors
Here is a tip when you have 2 wall colors that join either in a corner or anywhere else.
Always cut the light colors first and be sure to cut about 1/4" onto the 2nd color or joining area, in this case - the corner. Obviously dry time is required, then come back and freehand the darker color about 1/16" of an inch onto the 1st color (tan).
By overlapping the tan color in this photo with the dark redish brown, we will achieve a dominant break. If we were to not cut 1/16" into the joining color, the tan color may appear to be more dominant despite its lighter color.
Colors Used
Walls: Behr Dessert Sand and Sherwin Williams SW 6068 Brevity Brown
Trim: New Dirty White
Ceiling: Proform Match
Painting Spraying Split Spindle System
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See also: HVLP Transfer Efficiency
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Labels: How-to, spraying, systems, various tips
10/07/2007
Penetrol - Other uses
Most of us painters know how well Penetrol works with thick tacky oil-based product but did you know that when applied to metal surfaces - Penetrol dries to a clear flexible-like film to help prevent rust. I used Penetrol to spray the bottom of my mower deck and all the zinc-coated bolts.
These photos were taken with the iPhone.
Rolling Eggshell Paints
Working with paints with a sheen like eggshell require extra measures vs. rolling flats. Let’s take a look at what you need to know about rolling eggshell paint. Click the photo to view greater detail. The photo was rotated to better reflect the uniform wet finish.
With a flat wall paint, you can roll the wall any way you want and it typically dries flat and all the same. Rolling eggshell requires all of your rolling to go in one direction. I typically roll an area then move back to the starting point and – starting at the ceiling – make one single stroke or pass down to the baseboard, moving down the wall. You need to keep light pressure on the down stroke and repeat this level of pressure as best you can. Step back and look down the wall as you roll that last pass down. It should look consistent and wet.
To better understand what you are looking for start by doing a 6’ wide area of the wall from ceiling to floor and make all passes down. Then move to the middle of that 6’ area and roll one pass upward. Step to the side and look down the wall – you should be able to see the single pass going the opposite direction. This is what you want to avoid for the optimum finish results.
What to use: Use a Wooster Prodooz 3/8” white woven roller cover or similar product - but, if you ask me... except no substitutes, get a prodooz cover. Props to Wooster Brush Company!
10/06/2007
iPhone on the job
The iPhone has proven to be beneficial in the workplace. While listening to my music is always a nice treat, the iPhone helps keep track of my day to day workflow. I keep up with emails, I can browse the painter message boards at lunch keep track and make changes to the website etc.
Perhaps the coolest feature is the photo album and camera. I can snap a shot on the job and email it to the customer real-time. That feature works great when and if you had a question and need an immediate response without the homeowner having to come out to the job or leave work.
The Visual Voice Mail feature is also nice. Up until this iPhone I have managed to operate business without voicemail. I simply answer the phone. But, the iPhone allows me to select which voice mail I would like to listen to. I can rewind or fast forward at the flick of my finger.
The Notes option allows me to make quick notes on what paints I need from the paint store. I can even email the list quickly to the paint store.
The Calendar feature syncs with my Outlook 2007 Calendar in Vista. I can schedule on the job and sync it when I get back to the office. Even some of the little things are nice to have like the Weather Feature. Oh, and how can I forget, the Stopwatch so I can keep time on projects at work, it will even do laps.
Having full internet on the go also allows me to keep up with this blog and answer back to my readers.
Nice ceiling white
Here is a nice ICI Dulux Paints formula for white ceilings mixed in Ultra-Hide 1210. I use flats on ceilings whenever possible.
This formula was matched to the ProForm Lite Blue drywall mud which is much whiter than USG Blue Topping mud.
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Labels: interior paint, rolling, various tips
How to treat drywall
Generally flat finish paints do not require much of any new drywall surface prep. In order to achieve the best results with the level of sheen we are going to apply a drywall sealer. The sealer as opposed to primer will in fact absorb or penetrate the porous surface of the drywall and seal down the surface like no primer can. |
The wall paint is almost every bit as wet when I rolled it. Another benefit to using Gardz is your finish paint sticks better. Because Gardz absorbs into the surface of the drywall, you get the best stick or adhesion in comparison to using wall primers which typically dry on the surface of the paper. |
I can see one of my readers going to Home Depot and asking for a drywall Sealer. The HD associates would be like, "What? No you want a primer... who told you that you need a sealer? - that's silly".
UPDATED: Gardz applied to new drywall will turn the drywall a darker grey. You should be aware that some paint colors will not cover the same over a dark grey such as pastel colors.
10/05/2007
About Wall Primers II
It’s not likely many painters can talk about wall primers like I can.
My current issue with trying to get a nice eggshell finish over new drywall put me on a path learning everything there is to know about the capabilities of primers and there are more issues with using a primer vs. not.
What are wall primers capable of on new drywall?
Nothing if you ask me unless you apply primer with an airless about 20 mil thick, then maybe you might have something but not always. Primers are typically no different than another coat of paint and in most cases I’ve seen, paint provides a better bond to new drywall. WOW! That sort of changes everything you’ve been told about always use a primer huh? Well, that’s no BS!
Of the 12 primers (number keeps growing) I spent countless hours testing (literally hundreds of hours) over the past two years, there’s only one I feel provides the best results for paints where sheen is important. ICI Gripper does not dry flat and its absorption into new drywall is minimal.UPDATE: The fix for the issue mentioned above was resolved using a drywall sealer and can be found here. How to prepare new drywall
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Labels: bare drywall, interior primer






